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FYI: Manchester Client insisting on IR35 caught contract terms

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    #21
    Originally posted by missinggreenfields View Post
    For IR35 caught contracts, my starting price is about 30% more. If there is travel involved, then it's 50% more than the outside rate.
    Which will never happen.
    'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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      #22
      Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
      Which will never happen.
      It's useful to educate clients.

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        #23
        Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
        Which will never happen.
        For some of us, it will

        But nearly all my IR35 caught income goes into my pension pot anyway.

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          #24
          Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
          Bum on Seat - permietractors who blindly sign contracts, aren't aware/bothered about IR35 other than asking the agent if the contract's IR35 friendly and accepting the answer, don't know about the new T&S stuff.
          I've got the impression 90% of all contractors fall into that definition.
          Almost every second contract I had to ask an agency to amend contract terms to a reasonable standard.
          Now I ask for their contract templates prior any permission from me.
          Both upper-tier (client-agency) and lower-tier (contractor-agency) contract templates.

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            #25
            Originally posted by FK1 View Post
            I've got the impression 90% of all contractors fall into that definition.
            Almost every second contract I had to ask an agency to amend contract terms to a reasonable standard.
            Now I ask for their contract templates prior any permission from me.
            Both upper-tier (client-agency) and lower-tier (contractor-agency) contract templates.
            Can't see an agency ever giving you the upper-tier contract. The business model is based on you not knowing what they charge you out at.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Antman View Post
              Can't see an agency ever giving you the upper-tier contract. The business model is based on you not knowing what they charge you out at.
              The contract doesn't necessarily and I'll bet in most cases doesn't include the rate. But he'll rarely get it as the contract between client and agent has nothing to do with the contractor, even if he argues it could screw his IR35 case up. He can ask though.
              'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                #27
                Originally posted by Antman View Post
                Can't see an agency ever giving you the upper-tier contract. The business model is based on you not knowing what they charge you out at.
                A contract template is not the same as the final agreed contract.
                "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
                  A contract template is not the same as the final agreed contract.
                  Good point.

                  I was coming more from NLUK's angle that it's not your business, even if it is just a template. But I've also never asked though either.
                  Last edited by Antman; 2 August 2016, 21:44.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Antman View Post
                    Good point.

                    I was coming more from NLUK's angle that it's not your business, even if it is just a template. But I've also never asked though either.
                    I've seen a couple of upper contract templates and parts of two upper contracts. I didn't specifically go out of my way to see them.
                    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                      #30
                      I've learned the hard way that the gig isn't yours until your IR35-friendly contract is signed and you're sat at your allocated desk on client site. Get the contract checked and keep on the market until it's signed and you are at your start date.
                      The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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