+ Reply to Thread
Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 LastLast
Posts 21 to 30 of 34
  1. #21

    My post count is Majestic

    northernladuk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    31,699
    Thanks (Given)
    124
    Thanks (Received)
    1090
    Likes (Given)
    1570
    Likes (Received)
    5307

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by missinggreenfields View Post
    For IR35 caught contracts, my starting price is about 30% more. If there is travel involved, then it's 50% more than the outside rate.
    Which will never happen.
    'CUK forum personality of 2011' - Winner - Yes really!!!!

  2. #22

    Banned

    Old Greg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    The Tombliboo Bush
    Posts
    15,784
    Thanks (Given)
    417
    Thanks (Received)
    145
    Likes (Given)
    248
    Likes (Received)
    1170

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by northernladuk View Post
    Which will never happen.
    It's useful to educate clients.

  3. #23

    Fingers like lightning

    missinggreenfields's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Posts
    670
    Thanks (Given)
    73
    Thanks (Received)
    32
    Likes (Given)
    275
    Likes (Received)
    187

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by northernladuk View Post
    Which will never happen.
    For some of us, it will

    But nearly all my IR35 caught income goes into my pension pot anyway.

  4. #24
    FK1
    FK1 is offline

    Still gathering requirements...


    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Posts
    46
    Thanks (Given)
    11
    Thanks (Received)
    1
    Likes (Given)
    30
    Likes (Received)
    3

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by LondonManc View Post
    Bum on Seat - permietractors who blindly sign contracts, aren't aware/bothered about IR35 other than asking the agent if the contract's IR35 friendly and accepting the answer, don't know about the new T&S stuff.
    I've got the impression 90% of all contractors fall into that definition.
    Almost every second contract I had to ask an agency to amend contract terms to a reasonable standard.
    Now I ask for their contract templates prior any permission from me.
    Both upper-tier (client-agency) and lower-tier (contractor-agency) contract templates.

  5. #25

    Fingers like lightning


    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Location Location
    Posts
    833
    Thanks (Given)
    18
    Thanks (Received)
    20
    Likes (Given)
    218
    Likes (Received)
    77

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by FK1 View Post
    I've got the impression 90% of all contractors fall into that definition.
    Almost every second contract I had to ask an agency to amend contract terms to a reasonable standard.
    Now I ask for their contract templates prior any permission from me.
    Both upper-tier (client-agency) and lower-tier (contractor-agency) contract templates.
    Can't see an agency ever giving you the upper-tier contract. The business model is based on you not knowing what they charge you out at.

  6. #26

    My post count is Majestic

    northernladuk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    31,699
    Thanks (Given)
    124
    Thanks (Received)
    1090
    Likes (Given)
    1570
    Likes (Received)
    5307

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Antman View Post
    Can't see an agency ever giving you the upper-tier contract. The business model is based on you not knowing what they charge you out at.
    The contract doesn't necessarily and I'll bet in most cases doesn't include the rate. But he'll rarely get it as the contract between client and agent has nothing to do with the contractor, even if he argues it could screw his IR35 case up. He can ask though.
    'CUK forum personality of 2011' - Winner - Yes really!!!!

  7. #27

    I live on CUK

    SueEllen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    in the Park
    Posts
    24,222
    Thanks (Given)
    793
    Thanks (Received)
    793
    Likes (Given)
    3886
    Likes (Received)
    3298

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Antman View Post
    Can't see an agency ever giving you the upper-tier contract. The business model is based on you not knowing what they charge you out at.
    A contract template is not the same as the final agreed contract.
    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

  8. #28

    Fingers like lightning


    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Location Location
    Posts
    833
    Thanks (Given)
    18
    Thanks (Received)
    20
    Likes (Given)
    218
    Likes (Received)
    77

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by SueEllen View Post
    A contract template is not the same as the final agreed contract.
    Good point.

    I was coming more from NLUK's angle that it's not your business, even if it is just a template. But I've also never asked though either.
    Last edited by Antman; 2nd August 2016 at 21:44.

  9. #29

    I live on CUK

    SueEllen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    in the Park
    Posts
    24,222
    Thanks (Given)
    793
    Thanks (Received)
    793
    Likes (Given)
    3886
    Likes (Received)
    3298

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Antman View Post
    Good point.

    I was coming more from NLUK's angle that it's not your business, even if it is just a template. But I've also never asked though either.
    I've seen a couple of upper contract templates and parts of two upper contracts. I didn't specifically go out of my way to see them.
    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

  10. #30

    Godlike


    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    Non-Event Horizon
    Posts
    8,660
    Thanks (Given)
    328
    Thanks (Received)
    582
    Likes (Given)
    2196
    Likes (Received)
    2609

    Default

    I've learned the hard way that the gig isn't yours until your IR35-friendly contract is signed and you're sat at your allocated desk on client site. Get the contract checked and keep on the market until it's signed and you are at your start date.
    The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

+ Reply to Thread
Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 LastLast

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.