Client co's tulip chair

[VillageContractor]

A couple of places I've worked, contractors have had assessment's by HR and been provided with proper chairs.

I have no idea how this relates to IR35.

[northernladuk]

A couple of places I've worked, contractors have had assessment's by HR and been provided with proper chairs.

I have no idea how this relates to IR35.

Well you should. Not really the smartest thing to have something happen a couple of times that directly affects you and potentially ****s your IR35 position up yet you don't know how it relates. Sounds like a tickbox permacontractor to me.

[dx4100]

Well you should. Not really the smartest thing to have something happen a couple of times that directly affects you and potentially ****s your IR35 position up yet you don't know how it relates. Sounds like a tickbox permacontractor to me.

A client still has health and safety obligations to anyone working on its site. I very much doubt it has any bearing on IR35 at all. In fact I would be amazed.

[vadhert]

A couple of places I've worked, contractors have had assessment's by HR and been provided with proper chairs.

I have no idea how this relates to IR35.

IR35

I know employers have a duty of care to their staff but contractors are not their staff thus shouldn't be treated as such.

[northernladuk]

A client still has health and safety obligations to anyone working on its site. I very much doubt it has any bearing on IR35 at all. In fact I would be amazed.

Exactly. Why people think they are above all this just because they are contractors is beyond me.

[northernladuk]

IR35

I know employers have a duty of care to their staff but contractors are not their staff thus shouldn't be treated as such.

Erm, you sure about that? That mean they don't have to put a wet floor sign out in hazardous situations when contractors are around?

[dx4100]

IR35

I know employers have a duty of care to their staff but contractors are not their staff thus shouldn't be treated as such.

No, A client has a duty of care to anyone on their site. Even external contractors.

Contractors

If for the purposes of the contract a contractor needs to be onsite and has to use the client equipment. A laptop, desk and chair. Then the client would be expected to have carried out all the usual risk assessments and at least make sure the contractor has the right tools for the job.

Its simple logic to say if the provision of such basic office equipment is allowable then the provision of slightly modified equipment to take into account a contractors medical needs or disability to satisfy health and safety are going to be allowable as well. It wouldn't be unreasonable to expect a contractor to pay for it but the HMRC are going to have a hard time justifying its any worse than the normal provision of equipment from a client.

[vadhert]

Wet sign: Yes

New chair (As per context of this thread): No

Client co have provided a chair. Tulip or not. Personal circumstance or injury requiring a different chair should be provided by the contractor and not client co.

[dx4100]

Wet sign: Yes

New chair (As per context of this thread): No

Client co have provided a chair. Tulip or not. Personal circumstance or injury requiring a different chair should be provided by the contractor and not client co.

Anything to back this up ? Link or otherwise ? or are you just guessing ?

I am just guessing above but I think its an educated guess.

[SueEllen]

IR35

I know employers have a duty of care to their staff but contractors are not their staff thus shouldn't be treated as such.

Have a read of the Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations 1999.

One recent famous use of it was fining Hugo Boss when a mirror fell on a boy and killed him when the boy and his father were shopping.