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Fired and escorted out because I did not accept to be paid less than hours worked

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    #11
    Originally posted by Abraham View Post
    I was with a client once. Due to project urgency, the client manager asked me - along with the entire team - to work up to 10:00 PM, almost 13 to 14 hours, each day. Except me, all were permies., and permies got OT. When I filled in the timesheet at the end of the month, the client manager refused to pay anything extra, saying that "You are on a day rate, so we cannot pay more. Even if you have worked for 13 hours, they will be counted as a single day only".
    You didn't agree terms before you worked it? Doing stuff like that could be seen as D&C or possible part and parcel. Negotiating remuneration terms for it is being a business. It's also a tad naive as well.
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      #12
      Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
      What does 6 months and 60% mean?
      I think the 60% means 3 days a week, tis the continental way....

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        #13
        Something like cultural issue occurred to me, in terms of their perception of my email pointing out all the changes in agreements as well as and also in terms of her perception of my 'anger' (just showing upset in my face really). I was in no way attacking, blaming or so.

        But that could have been too much culturally.

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          #14
          You come across as having a bad attitude, not helped by your poor English. I suggest you are much more careful in what you say and do from now on.

          Contracting is offering a service and people expect a certain degree of politeness and cooperation. Are you really cut out for this?
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            #15
            You should have just smiled and waved. And added the remainder 0.3 hours in the next invoice. You just need to do a bit of maths in your head. No need to get angry or pissed off. And could be there were other reasons, for eg. they couldn't justify your cost to higher management and needed an excuse to get rid off. Life is too short. Move on.

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              #16
              While, to a degree, I can understand being annoyed at being asked to round down, rather than up, if a supplier kicked off at me, I'd cancel the agreement immediately. Your big mistake was making an issue out of it.

              No-one likes to work for free - though a little bit of unpaid time is normal. Instead, what you should have done, is learned about their approach to billing and used that going forward. Regardless of the notice period, there is probably a clause in your contract stating that the client does not have to offer you work and you don't have to accept it (MOO).

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                #17
                Just hope the OP can swallow his pride, spot the multitude of mistakes he's made, learn from it and move. If not its going to be the most expensive lesson he's failed to grasp he's ever likely to encounter.
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Abraham View Post
                  I was with a client once. Due to project urgency, the client manager asked me - along with the entire team - to work up to 10:00 PM, almost 13 to 14 hours, each day. Except me, all were permies., and permies got OT. When I filled in the timesheet at the end of the month, the client manager refused to pay anything extra, saying that "You are on a day rate, so we cannot pay more. Even if you have worked for 13 hours, they will be counted as a single day only".
                  Yeah this is a common tactic, and I bet your contract say's "a professional working day" rather than 8 hours etc.

                  If I am working away and in a hotel I normally don't mind working above and beyond, but I make it clear that flexibility works both ways and if I have to leave early on the last day of the week to drive home most clients are understanding of this, but this has to be set out as soon as the question of extra hours working is raised.
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                    #19
                    My previous post did not come up.

                    Well, thank you for explaining to me what the issue is.
                    The agency should have contacted me separately from the client about this and not cc-ed and late pm before last day of possible resubmission.
                    In fact, I am/was on daily rate. 60% said in interview = 3 full days, and 3 full days in contract.

                    I contacted the agency many times, and I think they don't seem to have a contract for 50% with client. They always said someone else will gonna talk to client but they never got back to me on that.

                    At start, client site said 50% which is 18.75h.

                    I saw the timesheet only after 2 weeks, and following the decimal instructions came to 0.6 days two times, because the 18.75h was not clear yet at that time.

                    There was nothing in the way otherwise, because the evening before client still told me to go to meeting to meet everyone as I was considered for soon to be advertised post.

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                      #20
                      Whatever. It's done. Move on.
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