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Fired and escorted out because I did not accept to be paid less than hours worked

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    #21
    Originally posted by Homhom View Post
    Something like cultural issue occurred to me, in terms of their perception of my email pointing out all the changes in agreements as well as and also in terms of her perception of my 'anger' (just showing upset in my face really). I was in no way attacking, blaming or so.

    But that could have been too much culturally.
    In Britan (it is important everywhere, but here it is much more sensitive topic than in places I came from) it is quite important how you expressing yourself. Any sign of anger or rudeness could be accounted as your inability to do a business. You may be 100 percent right, but if you start shouting on your counterpart - it is immediate loss of argument.

    I would suggest you move on and next time you have same situation (I am sure you will have it) just stay calm and think long-term.

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      #22
      If i would have shouted i would have understood but I didn't of course.

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        #23
        It shocks me how unprofessional some contractors are. Regardless of how you feel, you should have had the maturity and professionalism to deal with this amicably. It was only a couple of hours to charge, so as the other posted above said you should have just pushed it on to next week's timesheet - simple.

        This is why people need to make sure they have well rounded consulting skills before they venture out as independent contractors. You are supposed to be running your own company, you are the face of your business and everything you say and do reflects on your future.

        You cannot outsource the human interaction side of your business - because you are the business. If you can't deal with people at a professional and a personal level, then you're not cut out to be a contractor.

        That might sound harsh but it's better that you learn now than go through years of difficult, failed contract attempts.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Homhom View Post
          Hi, I am new here and also new in contracting.
          Today, I had an experience from hell.
          I was terminated, because I have worked 8.8 days and close to pay day the agency came up with the rule to only pay 0.5 or 1.0 days. The time sheet asks for decimals of 1.0!
          They first asked client if they upgrade to 9.0. Client refused and expected of me to round down to 8.5 days. Which I did not accept. Would anyone?
          In my reply by email I pointed out to both that this is now beyond acceptable, after having been told at interview with client that contract is for 6 months and 60%, when then the contract was already downsized to 3 months and at start at site, client also told me is only 50%.
          Today, client was pissed off that I showed my upset and also that i wrote that email, and within the breath of a minute from considering me for permanent post terminated my contract, with the argument that I clearly showed anger towards them and that this is not what they want, as they are looking at behaviour.
          This person who told me that, I have to say though, is very odd, never properly gave me intro, confuses and delays many things, didnt know anything about study she is managing that i needed to do my task for, but people on the surface seem to like her. Within a split second she first decided to terminate the agency, because they made this problem with the 0.5 days rule, and then 5 sec later she terminated me, because basically I was upset and refusing to be paid 0.3 days less.
          I had to go same day.
          Can they just do that on such non-material grounds? I was not shouting at her at all, I just refused to accept it and was (non-aggressively) upset.

          My contract says that client has to give one month notice but I had to go.

          Thank you for your insights.
          Initial reaction? You're a muppet.

          I've never ever seen an invoice rounded to anything (unless you're on an hourly T&M very short term gig) other than half days. If I work six hours, I'll invoice for half a day and take the hit in the interests of the business relationship.

          If you've become aggressive and argumentative (even if it is perceived that way), then they'll probably be able to bin you off with some minor clause. Ultimately your notice period means exactly dick as they have no obligation to provide you with work and can simply ask you not to bother turning up as they have no further work for you as you can no longer be trusted due to your hostility. Lick your wounds, learn your lesson (he who has the cash is king) and move on.
          The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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            #25
            Originally posted by Homhom View Post
            If i would have shouted i would have understood but I didn't of course.
            You dont need to shout to look like a trouble maker that the client doesn't want to pay for. You are a business and in a client supplier relationship ship. Things are different and the client doesn't need reasons you understand.

            TBH the fact you are still here arguing it is starting to speak volumes. I've a feeling you are going to have a fairly rocky contracting path.
            'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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              #26
              Originally posted by Homhom View Post
              Hi, I am new here and also new in contracting.
              Today, I had an experience from hell.
              I was terminated, because I have worked 8.8 days and close to pay day the agency came up with the rule to only pay 0.5 or 1.0 days. The time sheet asks for decimals of 1.0!
              They first asked client if they upgrade to 9.0. Client refused and expected of me to round down to 8.5 days. Which I did not accept. Would anyone?
              Yes, in fact everyone would because most people would have the intelligence to work out 0.3 of a day is worth less than remaining days of the contract you got rightly bagged from.

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                #27
                You wouldn't have said something you don't see as offensive about the fact she was a woman per chance?
                'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Unix View Post
                  Yes, in fact everyone would because most people would have the intelligence to work out 0.3 of a day is worth less than remaining days of the contract you got rightly bagged from.
                  He does seem 0.2 days short of a full one
                  The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Homhom View Post

                    The agency gets more than 50% of my day rate as well.....,
                    I contacted them many times tp ask about the difference between my contract and client saying 50%, they only refered to someone else speaking with them and never did sort it.

                    Thanks for your comments!!
                    Well, a least you can rest assured they are now getting 50% of very little
                    The Chunt of Chunts.

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                      #30
                      FWIW If I was the hiring manager and you came whining to me about 0.3 days unpaid I would have binned you as well. Sometimes I've worked longer than I've billed for sometimes less, it all comes out in the wash. How you ever managed to land this contract is beyond me

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