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    #11
    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    You did get your contract checked for IR35 and get an Ipse+ membership didn't you?
    You missed the link off, so I'll add it - join here.
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      #12
      Dont see what all the fuss is about. Most of us dont moan when client gives you PC/laptop so whats the difference?

      Its just a business tool that the client wants you to use - like a PC. Fair enough I wouldnt use for private calls etc AT ALL but if client wants me to have I'll have.

      Most places I find though just expect contractor to use own mobile. I dont have issue with this or people phoning me out of hours as long as its known its my personal mobile and:-

      1. Dont take the piss.
      2. Give out my number to everyone.
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        #13
        Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
        You missed the link off, so I'll add it - join here.
        Ohhh that's low!! I couldn't dig my number out in time... Sleep with one eye open tonight Mister!!
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          #14
          Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
          Dont see what all the fuss is about. Most of us dont moan when client gives you PC/laptop so whats the difference?

          Its just a business tool that the client wants you to use - like a PC. Fair enough I wouldnt use for private calls etc AT ALL but if client wants me to have I'll have.

          Most places I find though just expect contractor to use own mobile. I dont have issue with this or people phoning me out of hours as long as its known its my personal mobile and:-

          1. Dont take the piss.
          2. Give out my number to everyone.
          Wow... You just can't see past the end of your face can you. A disguised permie probably can't see the fuss. A laptop is completely different as it has all sort of security issues and the client hasn't got to grips with BYOD yet. A phone is a phone.

          It's a personal phone? I thought you'd put it through the business?

          To be honest, being given a laptop is about the only thing you don't moan about.
          Last edited by northernladuk; 30 March 2016, 09:47.
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            #15
            Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
            Fried air for £245/y. Nice, ah?
            One must be extremely stupid to get this......

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              #16
              Originally posted by garnet View Post
              Fried air for £245/y. Nice, ah?
              One must be extremely stupid to get this......
              Add up the price of getting comparable cover elsewhere and see how it compares. Then add on the intangible benefits. Then add on the optional things like Advantages and the financial products that are available.
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                #17
                Originally posted by garnet View Post
                Fried air for £245/y. Nice, ah?
                One must be extremely stupid to get this......
                Hahah totally!

                Lets hope your agency doesn't go bust while you're on jury duty, eh?
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
                  Add up the price of getting comparable cover elsewhere and see how it compares. Then add on the intangible benefits. Then add on the optional things like Advantages and the financial products that are available.
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                  No price is low enough for something I don't need.
                  IOW you indigenous people are overfed with consumerism and simply buy stuff you don't need. I am really sorry for you.

                  On the topic: don't worry about the phone. Just don't accept it/ use it.
                  In all contracts I sign I add a clause that all equipment will be supplied by myself, subject to client's security reqs.
                  All my contracts were examined by HMRC as part of VAT inspection and everything was OK. Even got a letter of apology by HMRC.
                  Last edited by garnet; 30 March 2016, 09:45.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by garnet View Post


                    No price is low enough for something I don't need.
                    IOW you indigenous people are overfed with consumerism and simply buy stuff you don't need. I am really sorry for you.
                    Part of me wishes that I had your sense of security. But at least you get the benefit of every success
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                      Wow... You just can't see past the end of your face can you. A disguised permie probably can't see the fuss. A laptop is completely different as it has all sort of security issues and the client hasn't got to grips with BYOD yet. A phone is a phone.

                      It's a personal phone? I thought you'd put it through the business?

                      To be honest, being given a laptop is about the only thing you don't moan about.
                      NLUK - you are talking complete tulipe. There is no way in this world or the next that the client giving you a mobile phone to use for the purpose of the work you're doing for them is going to make an ounce of difference.

                      Not suggesting you start using it like a permie and using it for personal calls. That is probably a bit too much.

                      Do you also refuse to use the phone that they may place on your desk? do you look at it, fold your arms and say I'm not a permie so I'm not using your permie phone?

                      End of the day, its no big deal. Pick your battles. In my experience, contractor who plays silly buggers and acts like an awkward git (FOR NO GOOD REASON - this bit is important!) ends up completely outside IR35 with no contract.

                      But no my phone is personal. Looked into business tariffs and it was not worth the tax savings or hassle.
                      Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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