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Agent rate negotiations after being in place for a while
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Originally posted by TheFaQQer View PostIf you're asking the agency to cut their margin, and are not looking to increase the amount paid by the client, why would you have that discussion with the client and not the person who needs to change their terms?The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostIt may come out that the client is paying far more for the contractor than the contractor is getting. That's fine for the first 6-12 months but after that the contractor is earning the extensions, not the agent.Comment
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Jeez. The agent has got some bottle. Came back with Sorry no increase. So I asked who they'd spoken to at client about this. PM local here certainly hasn't mentioned it to me. Pretty sure the no has come from someone higher up - although I am wondering if agent has even mentioned it to client or just thought stuff it we're not rocking the boat we'll tell him no.
They decided to ignore this email and instead tell me they've informed the client that I've declined and will be leaving in two weeks. Definitely trying it on here.
So my options now are to have a word with the local PM - who I expect will be mortifed that there is a risk its not all sorted. Or wait until news that I'm leaving filters down to him?Comment
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Originally posted by mankyspanky View PostJeez. The agent has got some bottle. Came back with Sorry no increase. So I asked who they'd spoken to at client about this. PM local here certainly hasn't mentioned it to me. Pretty sure the no has come from someone higher up - although I am wondering if agent has even mentioned it to client or just thought stuff it we're not rocking the boat we'll tell him no.
They decided to ignore this email and instead tell me they've informed the client that I've declined and will be leaving in two weeks. Definitely trying it on here.
So my options now are to have a word with the local PM - who I expect will be mortifed that there is a risk its not all sorted. Or wait until news that I'm leaving filters down to him?
He won't have mentioned it to the client at all. It's between you and him. Getting the client involved can only cause problems. The PM will be mortified but that is because he's having to get involved in a rate argument of 5% to an already overpaid contractor and the fact he has better things to do.
There is playing hardball and there is pissing your client off royally... all for 5%? Your call.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Unless you've got the client over a barrel (i.e. regulatory project, you're absolutely essential, etc.) then 98% of the time you will not get your rate rise. You've probably also blown any chance of agency-funded food and drinks, which would have been a better place to remind them how much you've brought in for them this year.The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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Originally posted by TheFaQQer View PostThe OP knows how much the client is paying - it's in the first post.
There was a thread on here about a month ago about the contractor and client both being stitched up by the agency and the client then simply laying the law down and telling the agency what the day rate would be and what the contractor would get.The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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Originally posted by mankyspanky View PostJeez. The agent has got some bottle. Came back with Sorry no increase. So I asked who they'd spoken to at client about this. PM local here certainly hasn't mentioned it to me. Pretty sure the no has come from someone higher up - although I am wondering if agent has even mentioned it to client or just thought stuff it we're not rocking the boat we'll tell him no.
They decided to ignore this email and instead tell me they've informed the client that I've declined and will be leaving in two weeks. Definitely trying it on here.
So my options now are to have a word with the local PM - who I expect will be mortifed that there is a risk its not all sorted. Or wait until news that I'm leaving filters down to him?
However, as others have said, when it comes to rate increases you really have to be prepared to walk in order to get something out of this otherwise the agent will just call your bluff.Comment
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Originally posted by mankyspanky View PostJeez. The agent has got some bottle. Came back with Sorry no increase. So I asked who they'd spoken to at client about this. PM local here certainly hasn't mentioned it to me. Pretty sure the no has come from someone higher up - although I am wondering if agent has even mentioned it to client or just thought stuff it we're not rocking the boat we'll tell him no.
They decided to ignore this email and instead tell me they've informed the client that I've declined and will be leaving in two weeks. Definitely trying it on here.
So my options now are to have a word with the local PM - who I expect will be mortifed that there is a risk its not all sorted. Or wait until news that I'm leaving filters down to him?
Then either hope that the client tells the agency to cut their rate and they keep you with the increase, or walk away into a higher paying contract with no downtime. Or back down and accept that you aren't getting any increase.
Bear in mind that walking away might be the equivalent of radical nasal removal when extensive facial plastic surgery is required instead.Comment
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Originally posted by mankyspanky View PostJeez. The agent has got some bottle. Came back with Sorry no increase. So I asked who they'd spoken to at client about this. PM local here certainly hasn't mentioned it to me. Pretty sure the no has come from someone higher up - although I am wondering if agent has even mentioned it to client or just thought stuff it we're not rocking the boat we'll tell him no.
They decided to ignore this email and instead tell me they've informed the client that I've declined and will be leaving in two weeks. Definitely trying it on here.
So my options now are to have a word with the local PM - who I expect will be mortifed that there is a risk its not all sorted. Or wait until news that I'm leaving filters down to him?Comment
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