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Originally posted by Pondlife View PostSo it's going nowhere then. Plus I imagine if it were revoked than there would be a massive number of temps and other at the lower end reclassed (by their employer) as self employed overnight.
But importantly, there are hundreds of thousands of us that don't work via brollies. That is why our problems won't go away until HMRC has us all firmly in the fold. If IPSE is to be believed, there are 4.5m of us. And the number will only grow when unscrupulous care companies amongst others realise they can get away with forced self employment.Comment
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Originally posted by tractor View PostThey will squeeze the life out of it so that few will do business with what they consider aPSCFLC .Comment
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Originally posted by RasputinDude View PostFTFYComment
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Originally posted by Pondlife View PostNo reaction over on IPSE forum.
I suggest the lurkers here and the lurkers there familiarise themselves with the proposals and make their vote count on 24th January. Your PCG needs you!Comment
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Originally posted by tractor View PostExactly.
But importantly, there are hundreds of thousands of us that don't work via brollies. That is why our problems won't go away until HMRC has us all firmly in the fold. If IPSE is to be believed, there are 4.5m of us. And the number will only grow when unscrupulous care companies amongst others realise they can get away with forced self employment.Comment
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Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View PostBut that's part of the problem - we all know what we mean by 'contractor' and we know that Ltd Co is a valid business mechanism for them - what HMG are beginning to see as contractors ranges from £1000 per day IT specialists to brickies to care workers to teachers to locums etc etc etc. It's like comparing apples to oranges - IMHO 'contractors' should be clearly defined and should be treated accordingly not lumped in with 'temps'
HMRC see the task in the opposite light. The more people they can convince the gov that are 'temps' (albeit only in their view), the more weight their argument has, the more budget they get and the less work they have to do with every single contractor that becomes caught either by their own investigation or is driven to a brolly/perm by the fear of an investigation.
The HoL saw through them but unfortunately, they don't make and cannot influence government policy. Goverment policy decisions follow the money trail only. Yet a still more ridiculous situation exists that allows us to count the proceeds of drugs and prostitution in our GNP but also prevents us from taxing the sameComment
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Originally posted by tractor View Post+1 but you are preaching to the converted
I know sorry
HMRC see the task in the opposite light. The more people they can convince the gov that are 'temps' (albeit only in their view), the more weight their argument has, the more budget they get and the less work they have to do with every single contractor that becomes caught either by their own investigation or is driven to a brolly/perm by the fear of an investigation.
The HoL saw through them but unfortunately, they don't make and cannot influence government policy. Goverment policy decisions follow the money trail only. Yet a still more ridiculous situation exists that allows us to count the proceeds of drugs and prostitution in our GNP but also prevents us from taxing the sameComment
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Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View PostAll good points Sir and well made I am beginning to wonder though whether the political drive in all this is taking things in a direction which will actually make life more difficult for HMRC - employment law and all it entails is far more complex and subjective than tax lawComment
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