Originally posted by AtW
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Brexit - How do you define a negotiation?
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Originally posted by saptastic View PostAnd why do they talk about negotiating a divorce bill of between £20bn - £100bn
Originally posted by saptastic View PostDoes anyone know what is the UK legally obliged to pay?
Some will claim that it’s “The EU’s problem”, the simple response is that it was the UK that chose to leave the EU, so the UK has created the problem, therefore a “No deal” situation would mean the UK would need to repay every penny it has currently agreed to pay, because the UK has not negotiated a deal to pay less. This will be disputed by those who have been taught to believe that all evil comes from the EU and running away from it fast while ignoring any commitments and consequences will have no effect because (...insert spurious jingoistic reason here that is not founded in reality)…Maybe we ain’t that young anymoreComment
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It's nice to see you guys have your own thread. Group-think at it's finest, along with a bit of self-loathing.
OK will leave you to it, cheer up.Comment
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Here’s a little bit more of the explanation as to why:
https://www.channel4.com/news/factch...ll-from-the-eu
(I am unsure whether C4 is considered too pro-EU to count for some, but the above tries to explain it, I’d suggest reading the article for understanding while paying less credence to the numbers that it quotes)…Maybe we ain’t that young anymoreComment
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Originally posted by woohoo View PostIt's nice to see you guys have your own thread. Group-think at it's finest, along with a bit of self-loathing.
OK will leave you to it, cheer up.Comment
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Originally posted by AtW View PostIt does not matter if it's 0, what matters is how much EU wants for the inconvenience caused - if not fully paid then it will cost UK more in a long run due to bad deal (AKA no deal), thank Lord the EU is reasonable and does not ask for a trillion euros.
However the EU are simple unable or unwilling to do anything until a 'sum' has been agreed
So we have found 40 billion down the back of the sofa (as in reality that is not a huge amount of money) we can give it to the EU to see if that stimulates them to start actual adult negotiations.
There is no need to pay for any inconvenience caused - remember this a voluntary union so leaving it should just be a process not an inconvenience.
Unless the reason you want to keep it together is slightly more nefarious than you want to let on to the general public.Comment
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Originally posted by original PM View PostThe fact is the sum owed by the UK will depend on how you calculate it.
However the EU are simple unable or unwilling to do anything until a 'sum' has been agreed
So we have found 40 billion down the back of the sofa (as in reality that is not a huge amount of money) we can give it to the EU to see if that stimulates them to start actual adult negotiations.
There is no need to pay for any inconvenience caused - remember this a voluntary union so leaving it should just be a process not an inconvenience.
Unless the reason you want to keep it together is slightly more nefarious than you want to let on to the general public.
The ;inconvenience; comes from managing the impact of withdrawal and negotiating a new relationship, not helped by outstanding British government incompetence.Comment
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostHere’s a little bit more of the explanation as to why:
https://www.channel4.com/news/factch...ll-from-the-eu
(I am unsure whether C4 is considered too pro-EU to count for some, but the above tries to explain it, I’d suggest reading the article for understanding while paying less credence to the numbers that it quotes)
sorry guys forgot this is your doom and gloom forum.Comment
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Originally posted by woohoo View PostPersonally, I think if we have committed to EU funding and it's reasonable to do so then we should honor that. No big deal. .…Maybe we ain’t that young anymoreComment
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostYou've said something on Brexit I agree with. Quoting it for posterity.Comment
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