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Brexit: Netherlands told to prepare for a no-deal 'chaos scenario'

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    Brexit: Netherlands told to prepare for a no-deal 'chaos scenario'

    So it's still all going swimmingly in the UK's march into a free and prosperous future.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...chaos-scenario

    The Netherlands must prepare for a chaotic, no-deal Brexit, the Dutch parliament’s European affairs committee has said, in a strongly worded report blaming the stalled exit talks on Britain’s “unrealistic expectations” and “inconsistency”.

    “What was long considered impossible is suddenly thinkable: a chaos scenario in which the UK abruptly leaves the EU on 29 March 2019 without an exit agreement, a transition period or a framework for future relations,” the committee said.

    “The Netherlands must be ready for this. Government services such as customs and inspection agencies must be prepared. Roadmaps must be be ready for several economic sectors, notably transport, agriculture and fisheries.”

    The report said a chaotic UK departure from the bloc – as opposed to a hard, but planned Brexit – would be “highly damaging to ... vital and vulnerable” business sectors in the Netherlands, currently Britain’s fourth-largest trading partner.

    The rapporteurs said that after six rounds, Brexit talks were deadlocked because there had not been “sufficient progress across the board” on the key article 50 points: citizens’ rights, the Irish border and the financial settlement.

    They pointed to “deficient preparation” on the UK side, saying the snap June election and “unrealistic Brexit expectations of a number of British politicians” had taken a heavy toll on “the consistency and coherence of the British government’s negotiating positions”.

    The report recommended that to avoid a chaotic exit, negotiations must be speeded up or the two-year deadline extended. It also called for urgent European legal advice on what would happen if the European parliament vetoed an exit deal, or the European council failed to reach a majority.

    On citizens’ rights, it said the uncertainty of EU citizens in the UK and British nationals on the continent was fast becoming acute. “These people have a right to clarity and future perspectives and really cannot wait much longer to know what their rights will be after Brexit,” it said.

    On the Irish question, neither of the two possible solutions – a border between Northern Ireland and the Republic, or between Northern Ireland and Britain – looked feasible, so “both sides talk of ‘imaginative solutions’, but nothing concrete”, it said.

    The committee’s major concern, however, was the financial settlement. “For a large part of the British population,” it said, “any divorce payment will be too much”. The EU27 cannot give way either, since “too great a reduction in the divorce bill ... would reward the British for bad behaviour”.

    For that reason, the report’s authors feared that “sooner or later, talks will break down” over the financial settlement, making a chaotic Brexit more likely and leading to a level of uncertainty and instability the Dutch “cannot afford to underestimate”.

    Rabobank, a leading Dutch bank, estimated last month that a no-deal Brexit could knock 4.25% off the Netherlands’ GDP – and up to 18% off the UK’s – by 2030. Even a soft Brexit with a comprehensive free trade deal between the UK and the EU could hit Dutch GDP by 3%, the bank said.

    In the first three quarters of this year, the UK imported Dutch goods and services worth £29bn and exported £15.5bn. Europe’s largest port, Rotterdam, handles more than 54m tonnes of cargo a year either heading to or coming from Britain, over 11% of its total imports and exports.

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    The UK government have made FA practical preparations for Brexit. I cannot envisage that UK exports are going to put up with the pre-single market shenanigans of waiting around for to clear UK exit customs (with the inevitable pilfering at the docks) and then waiting clearing EU customs. They will just move their businesses to the EU.
    "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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      #3
      Brexit: Netherlands told to prepare for a no-deal 'chaos scenario'
      ****, no clogs and no cheese with holes in it.

      How will we cope?

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        #4
        Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
        ****, no clogs and no cheese with holes in it.

        How will we cope?
        Google the Rotterdam effect. With customs barriers (both tariff and non-tariff) in place, it impacts us a lot.

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          #5
          Originally posted by meridian View Post
          Google the Rotterdam effect. With customs barriers (both tariff and non-tariff) in place, it impacts us a lot.
          So instead of shipping everything to the EU, for it to be sold on outside the EU, we simply ship our goods outside the EU directly, saving money and boosting trade.

          Sorted. Next!

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            #6
            Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
            So instead of shipping everything to the EU, for it to be sold on outside the EU, we simply ship our goods outside the EU directly, saving money and boosting trade.

            Sorted. Next!
            Emm.... no....
            "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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              #7
              Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
              So instead of shipping everything to the EU, for it to be sold on outside the EU, we simply ship our goods outside the EU directly, saving money and boosting trade.

              Sorted. Next!
              Yep, that's exactly it. Plus instead of ships from outside the EU docking at Rotterdam first, they go directly to the UK.

              Except, of course, that that means we can only use smaller vessels (Rotterdam is one of the world's largest shipping hubs and can handle deep sea shipping). And our direct suppliers can only use those. Which increases shipping costs.

              On the plus side, instead of unloading in NL and completing the route via road haulage, our ports will have more inbound and outbound and this might relieve some customs congestion at Dover.

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                #8
                Originally posted by meridian View Post

                Except, of course, that that means we can only use smaller vessels (Rotterdam is one of the world's largest shipping hubs and can handle deep sea shipping). And our direct suppliers can only use those. Which increases shipping costs.

                .
                Yeah of course.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Gateway

                DP World London Gateway is a fully integrated logistics facility, comprising a semi-automated, deep-sea container terminal on the same site as the UK's largest land bank for development of warehousing, distribution facilities and ancillary logistics services.

                The facility is located on the north bank of the River Thames in Thurrock, Essex, 30 miles (48 km) east of central London. The deep-water port opened in November 2013 and is able to handle the biggest container ships in the world. The port is now linked on a weekly-basis with 51 countries and more than 90 ports all over the world, including Asia, Australia, the USA, South America, Africa, India and southern Europe.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
                  I used to fly regularly from London City to Rotterdam, flying over the Port of Rotterdam shows how huge the port is. The UK has nothing in comparison.
                  "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Paddy View Post
                    I used to fly regularly from London City to Rotterdam, flying over the Port of Rotterdam shows how huge the port is. The UK has nothing in comparison.
                    Its alright stone axes & furs don't take up much space, after leaving the EU its all we will need.

                    FFS, keep on dreaming of your EU saviour.
                    Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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