Brexit: Netherlands told to prepare for a no-deal 'chaos scenario'

[Eirikur]

Another article on the same subject:
Brexit: How the Netherlands is braced for 'no deal' - BBC News
It's the first time ever though that someone says the Dutch are having a reputation for politeness, it's the exact opposite

[meridian]

Its alright stone axes & furs don't take up much space, after leaving the EU its all we will need.

FFS, keep on dreaming of your EU saviour.

*sigh* It's not about the EU being a saviour of anything, it's about the realities of modern-day supply chains.

Yes, of course those supply chains can be changed, but this takes a significant amount of time, effort, and cost, and not just from the UK. If you've ever tried to implement an interface with a 3rd party logistics provider you'll know that they have effort and costs on their side too. And they tend to want to recoup those costs from the party that's forcing the change.

Typical Brexiteers platitudes of "we'll just change the supply chain then" ignore the complexities of what is actually needed to be done, in the timescale that we have.

[Platypus]

Typical Brexiteers platitudes of "we'll just change the supply chain then" ignore the complexities of what is actually needed to be done, in the timescale that we have.

That's not a very can-do attitude, is it?
Where money is concerned, people won't hang about scratching their arses like some programmer changing an interface. The work gets done.

[northernladyuk]

That's not a very can-do attitude, is it?
Where money is concerned, people won't hang about scratching their arses like some programmer changing an interface. The work gets done.

Magical thinking it is then!

[northernladyuk]

*sigh* It's not about the EU being a saviour of anything, it's about the realities of modern-day supply chains.

Yes, of course those supply chains can be changed, but this takes a significant amount of time, effort, and cost, and not just from the UK. If you've ever tried to implement an interface with a 3rd party logistics provider you'll know that they have effort and costs on their side too. And they tend to want to recoup those costs from the party that's forcing the change.

Typical Brexiteers platitudes of "we'll just change the supply chain then" ignore the complexities of what is actually needed to be done, in the timescale that we have.

That's not a very can-do attitude is it? The UK has become stuck in this economic dependence on financial and other services and high end manufacturing closely intertwined with the EU. It's time to re-balance the economy and trade with Empire 2.0. As that quality patriotic newspaper the Telegraph has so wisely said:

British jam, tea and biscuits will be at the heart of Britain's Brexit trade negotiations, the Government has said, as it unveiled plans to sell food to other countries to boost the economy.

In a speech at a trade fair in Paris last night, Environment Minister Andrea Leadsom outlined key Brexit preparation plans which she claimed would deliver a £2.9bn boost to the UK over five years.

Ahead of Article 50 being triggered next Spring, the point when Brexit negotiations can start, the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs has launched a so-called 'International Action Plan for Food and Drink'.

It has identified nine markets across 18 countries with the best potential for specific products for selling British produce.

These include Japan, which apparently has a growing hunger for classic British items like afternoon tea items and beef.

British tea, jam and biscuits will be at the heart of Britain's Brexit trade plans

You need to stop being stuck in the old EU ways and see the bright future trading opportunities.

[Bean]

Compare Rabobank analysis to the Treasury analysis (and then to reality);

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/b...analysis-shows
(Beware, there may be some remoaner brainfarts/lies in the link above)

Hmmmmm

[AtW]

Britain will just restart issuing privateer locenses and we'd get cheap goods en route to Rotterdam

Sorteed!

[BlasterBates]

The treasury forecast in 2016 presumed an immediate invocation of article 50 and a committed single minded march to a hard Brexit. The government however did the opposite because they knew what would happen, after all there is a treasury document to tell them it would be a complete economic disaster. They have therefore delayed invocation and spread enough mud around to make unclear as to what will happen. This has successfully delayed armageddon.

lets look at the economic signals 6 months after article 50.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-...factory-orders

...not looking good, the pound is 12% down as they forecast and inflation is up as they forecast, and the economy is slowing down as they forecast. Growth is already 1% lower than it would have been without Brexit.

One thing that the forecast didn't say is that after Brexit consumers will fall into a deep depression before every meal as they are faced with a tasteless chlorine washed chicken on their plate.

[tomtomagain]

I used to fly regularly from London City to Rotterdam, flying over the Port of Rotterdam shows how huge the port is. The UK has nothing in comparison.

So what? The UK just needs ports big enough to accommodate the UK's needs. Not a port big enough to accommodate half of Europes needs.

Anything that pushes more work into the declining UK ports is great in my view. Even if it puts a marginal increase on the price of imported goods.

I've worked in Rotterdamn. It's a hole.

[AtW]

I've worked in Rotterdamn. It's a hole.

That enables lower shipping rates, which is what clients care about...

Building a new port isn't something that can be easily, quickly or cheaply done. Who'd want to invest into post Brexit Britain anyway?